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ALDP Joined: 25 Jul 2009 Posts: 4412 (Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:05 pm) Reply

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| MADali, the point everyone is trying to make is that "with some drugs you cannot expect you can try them just once" is not a tired anti-heroin cliche. It is an actual thing that is reflected in the huge number of people who have a direct personal experience with somebody dying or ruining their lives from trying it. The number is even more huge if you include painkillers like oxycodone, which you might as well to a certain extent. I would assume a sizable proportion of people who get addicted to it plan on only trying it once, because doing heroin has been a glamorous or tragic-seeming meme for a hundred years. I'm not the insane junkie that I probably appear to be talking about drugs aggressively at a board where only crazy people do or talk about drugs, but as somebody who does like some drugs I can say that my decision to never try heroin did not arise from hearing ridiculous implausible horror stories about it, or watching Requiem for a Dream while high on other drugs and thinking "Heroin is just... the worst" (which is a thing that happens a fair bit in the world). There is too much hype surrounding heroin, not the least of which is its reputation as the drug people think they'll try once right before it ruins their lives. Much like nobody doing cocaine is capable of not feeling a sense that they are amazing just for the fact that they're doing cocaine, I don't think somebody injects themselves with heroin and goes "Oh, this is nice. This is like it always looked in movies and TV shows. Well I'm glad that's finally settled!" I also recognize that the alignment of factors that would allow me to try heroin (trying to buy some heroin, for instance) would make it that much harder for me to get away from it when I find out heroin feels really good. Also I try to keep some perspective on my drug EXPERIMENTATION which involves asking myself "Am I thinking and doing exactly what anybody rationalizing their drug abuse would do?" Among other things, that allows me to recognize what patterns of thought can lead somebody to actually convincing themselves that they need to try heroin eventually. |
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Magic Juan Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 8709 (Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:06 pm) Reply

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| Maybe there's a little bit of Gimp Mask inside all of us. |
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Magic Juan Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 8709 (Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:06 pm) Reply

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| OH FUCK WHAT IF I'M STILL TRIPPING |
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ALDP Joined: 25 Jul 2009 Posts: 4412 (Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:22 pm) Reply

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| I feel like I've been pretty lucid in this thread but because FTU is FTU it probably just looks like "DRUGS DRUGS DRUGS, I'M GAY FOR DRUGS" |
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ALDP Joined: 25 Jul 2009 Posts: 4412 (Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:23 pm) Reply

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| OH FUCK WHAT IF I'M STILL TRIPPING |
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Captain PUNisher Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 1103 (Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:52 pm) Reply

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Have I already mentioned that for like at least a month last year we were smoking pot pretty much every day? But then we just stopped doing it. _________________ Said the Captain PUNisher. |
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Sporkism It's funny that I have a job executing cats and dogs, considering that I AM A WHORE WHO FUCKS FOR MONEY Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Posts: 5369 (Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:53 pm) Reply

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I like this thread. _________________
@}-,-'- *~*~* Member of the FTU Elegant Tea Party Society *~*~* -'-,-{@ |
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Ryoko's Biatch Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 9256 (Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:08 pm) Reply

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| Jay, no one likes braggarts. |
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Potatoes Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 3040 (Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:20 pm) Reply

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| Madali, please don't try heroin. |
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MADali Basically, someone like me is the friend who is watching from afar and shaking one's head. Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 6740 (Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:21 pm) Reply
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| This has been an intervention, and I will listen to you guys, because I see how much my decision will be hurting my close ones. |
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Potatoes Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 3040 (Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:28 pm) Reply

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"Junk Medicine" by Theodore Dalrymple is an interesting book about heroin addiction.
I downloaded it from library.nu! |
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MADali Basically, someone like me is the friend who is watching from afar and shaking one's head. Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 6740 (Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:29 pm) Reply
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| Speaking of books and heroin addiction, I just finished "Naked Lunch" and its a completely worthless book. |
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Fagzilla Got lost in another dimension for a couple months. But seriously, we will actually update the site within the next couple of days. http://www.bandzwiki.com/ Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 10111 (Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:33 pm) Reply

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This thread is making ME want to try heroin!
Not because I want it, but because not-getting addicted to it is being made out to be this insurmountable challenge.
Oh yeah, it's incredibly addictive? It'll get you when you try it once?
We'll see about that.
I've beat cigarettes. I've beat alcohol. I've beat gambling. No addiction can stop me.
This sounds like it would be the IRON MAN TEST of addiction.
I want to do heroin for a couple weeks, and then quit, and then we'll see who's the best. |
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Fagzilla Got lost in another dimension for a couple months. But seriously, we will actually update the site within the next couple of days. http://www.bandzwiki.com/ Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 10111 (Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:34 pm) Reply

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| MADali, I challenge you to heroin addiction. |
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Captain PUNisher Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 1103 (Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:41 pm) Reply

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I've never gotten addicted to cigarettes either. _________________ Said the Captain PUNisher. |
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Mike Dunn Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 3549 (Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:43 pm) Reply

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| Me either, but I'm worrying that I'm going to get addicted now that I work in the Sales department with a bunch of chain smokers. |
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Fagzilla Got lost in another dimension for a couple months. But seriously, we will actually update the site within the next couple of days. http://www.bandzwiki.com/ Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 10111 (Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:44 pm) Reply

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Imagine the webmaster of Bandz Wiki being a hardcore heroin addict.
Haha! |
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Action Hank Yes, I fart dicks. Dicks actually come out of my anus when I fart. Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 8600 (Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:58 pm) Reply

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| Why does it seem like "heroin-addict" is a step above "Bandz Wiki webmaster" in life? |
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Theldorrin Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 19724 (Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:33 pm) Reply

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Don't you still smoke, drink and gamble, Chris? I know you still gamble, because you were just complaining about that poker thing. _________________ @}-,-'- *~*~* Member of the FTU Elegant Tea Party Society *~*~* -'-,-{@ |
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Fagzilla Got lost in another dimension for a couple months. But seriously, we will actually update the site within the next couple of days. http://www.bandzwiki.com/ Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 10111 (Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:38 pm) Reply

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| Yes, but these things have no power over me. That's the difference. I can start and stop whenever I want. |
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