Dragon Ball Z Uncensored

Theldorrin · (Sun May 17, 2009 12:29 pm)

Theldorrin
http://www.gokgs.com/gameArchives.jsp?user=Feuilly

Roy
http://www.gokgs.com/gameArchives.jsp?user=RoyJonzeJr

Peter
http://www.gokgs.com/gameArchives.jsp?user=SerpentJoe

Mike
http://www.gokgs.com/gameArchives.jsp?user=Fartmaster

You can also put your name in to these sites:
http://kgs.gosquares.net/index.rhtml.en?id=Feuilly

http://kgsstats.com/Default.aspx?user=Feuilly&filter=filterRankedOnly&opponent=

To get some interesting information.

This is now the go thread.

I'm going to post links to games that have been played.

http://www.eidogo.com/#url:http://files.gokgs.com/games/2009/4/3/Feuilly-SerpentJoe.sgf

http://www.eidogo.com/#url:http://files.gokgs.com/games/2009/5/12/SerpentJoe-Feuilly.sgf

This last one is interesting, because I played the Great Wall opening, and Peter definitely outplayed me tactically in a handful of our confrontations.

http://eidogo.com/#url:http://files.gokgs.com/games/2009/5/17/Feuilly-SerpentJoe.sgf[img][/img][img][/img]

Roy · (Sun May 17, 2009 12:55 pm)

Oh jeez, Big Fagot is playing now? Someone play with me! I will show you my strength.

Theldorrin · (Sun May 17, 2009 1:31 pm)

You need to get a KGS account.

It's like Yahoo go but about 100x better because it actually scales to your screen size, does proper rankings, and can automatically save games.

You can also play as a guest, if you don't want to register, but your ranked games aren't automatically saved, then.

http://www.gokgs.com/download.jsp

Roy · (Sun May 17, 2009 1:52 pm)

I'm on there now as RoyJonzeJr, Guest for now. Message me or something.

Feuilly and SerpentJoe, huh.

Theldorrin · (Sun May 17, 2009 2:18 pm)

Crud. I was in a game at the time.

I'm now tentatively ranked at 25k.

Roy · (Sun May 17, 2009 2:24 pm)

Let's play some games before I hit the sack and then go to bed.

What happens if my Internet goes down during the game? It's been spotty lately. Could I just rejoin?

Theldorrin · (Sun May 17, 2009 2:25 pm)

Oh, your info says you're online, but I can't message you. Maybe because you're a guest?

We generally try to create a new room called FTU or something, and then play in there. The main channels are very busy.

You can do Rooms -> Room List -> New Rooms and check for FTU, or create a new room if it isn't there.

KGS also has an automatching service, so you can set it up to automatically match you with a person for a game.

Theldorrin · (Sun May 17, 2009 3:31 pm)

Yeah, I believe it does support rejoining.

I'm a bit surprised that it saved our game, but it's good that it did.

Roy crushed me.

http://www.eidogo.com/#url:http://files.gokgs.com/games/2009/5/17/Feuilly-RoyJonzeJr.sgf

Roy · (Sun May 17, 2009 3:42 pm)

Oh, never mind about that N19 move I was talking about. It turned out to not be a threat after all. You were right, my P18 move secured it. Q-17 was the unnecessary move I made because I was paranoid.

I still didn't want you to play it though, because I get stressed out by wars between big blobs.

Theldorrin · (Sun May 17, 2009 4:18 pm)

I actually went back in time a ways, and set up the computer to play both sides, and it turned out that one playing as me (white) won, and managed to claim that area at the top.

The computer is insanely good compared to me, though, so it's unlikely that I'd have any hope.

Anyway, you're my only loss on KGS so far. I need to find out my rank!

Roy · (Sun May 17, 2009 4:22 pm)

Feh, there's no way I'd lose to some stupid MACHINE. Especially on 19x19! That top part was as good as mine.

I played with the computer on Igowin, and they're decent at close quarters combat, but they don't know anything about territory.

Theldorrin · (Sun May 17, 2009 4:26 pm)

Igowin only plays 9x9. Even I can beat it on an even game. The computer is much better on a 19x19 board.

Roy · (Sun May 17, 2009 4:51 pm)

Oh my god, we'll see about that. Tell me how to play against the computer. Tomorrow I'm going to rock it!

Theldorrin · (Sun May 17, 2009 5:25 pm)

Well, mine is not free, but GnuGo is, and it's decently strong.

http://www.gnu.org/software/gnugo/download.html

I'm sure Peter can tell you exactly what you have to do, since he has it installed.

Big Fagot · (Sun May 17, 2009 8:03 pm)

If you have Jago installed, and Gnu Go, it pretty much does itself. Start Jago, then Actions >> Play Go (using GMP).

At least that was my experience.

Roy · (Tue May 19, 2009 4:00 am)

I've played the computer a few times, and this is the closest I've come to winning (I'm white). Fukkk.

I never realized that Igowin wasn't the pinnacle of Go AI development.

Roy · (Tue May 19, 2009 6:39 am)

GNU GO, AM I ROCKIN' YOU? CAN YOU FEEL THAT SHIT?

"Oh god Roy, stop! I can't take any more of your rockin'!"

Theldorrin · (Tue May 19, 2009 9:05 am)

GnuGo (at its maximum difficulty) and Many Faces of Go (the particular version I have) cap out at about 9k or so.

But the new version of Many Faces of Go is around 2k, so like 7 stones stronger still!

And there are a bunch of other programs in the 2k range, I believe.

Anyway, what colour were you in that most recent game?

Theldorrin · (Tue May 19, 2009 9:06 am)

Also, 9x9 is much easier than 19x19. The medium size board is easier too, for that matter.

I'm not sure exactly why.

Roy · (Tue May 19, 2009 9:11 am)

I was white again. I won by 7.5 on both counts with komi taken into account.

How do you set the difficulty level? I was just playing on whatever the default was. And it makes no sense for the computer to be worse on a small board.