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		| AdvisorExedor 
 
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				| 1.  Phil Sheridan 2.Sherman
 3. Thomas
 4. Lee
 5. Forrest
 6. Grant
 7. Stonewall Jackson
 8. Longstreet
 9. Meade
 10. Mclellan
 
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		| Richard Cristopolis ~~~SNAKE...NOW IT"S MY TURN TO PROTECT YOU~~~
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				| Captain America Wolverine
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		| Theldorrin Joined: 04 Jan 2007
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				| Guan Yu is probably the best civil war general. |  | 
	
		| Ryoko's Biatch Joined: 04 Jan 2007
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				| The winner is always the best, so Guan Yu can suck it. |  | 
	
		| Big Fagot Alpha ape
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				| Moqtada al Sadr. |  | 
	
		| Servbot Overrated faggot
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				| Shaka Zulu. |  | 
	
		| Derek Payne huhhhh *puke* huhhhhhuh come on mike save the game *puke*
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				| Iron-Man did pretty well in the Civil War. |  | 
	
		| Magic Juan Joined: 10 Jan 2007
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		| MADali Basically, someone like me is the friend who is watching from afar and shaking one's head.
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		| Yogurtman Odin
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				| Forrest is not someone who it would have occurred to me to put on there.  He was good, obviously, but he was a brigade level guy for most of the war. 
 Also I don't know that much about George Thomas due to his not being in the Virginia theater.
 
 Other than that this is a pretty good list!  I mean, yeah, General Lee riding into the clearing at Chancellorsville while the Army of Northern Virginia cheers insanely is probably the highest pinnacle any American general has ever reached, but on the other hand that led to overconfidence and Gettysburg.  Sheridan and Sherman never failed at much of anything.
 
 The Civil War is the best.
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		| YES Ask me about nation, culture, religion, gender, sexuality, and identity in general being anachronisms from a more vulgar and primitive past.
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				| Chancellorsville was as much the work of Jackson as it was Lee; Lee and Jackson (and Longstreet) together may have made  a napoleon but Lee alone wasn't, and I think his lack of offfensive victories substantiates this theory. 
 Not to mention his early small scale losses against Mclellan, and of course his decline after Chancellorsville.
 
 I don't think Lee even really picked Jackson or Longstreet; he couldn't replace the former.  Contrast to Grant who helped bring Sherman and Sheridan up.
 
 Lee was a better general than Grant (as was demonstrated as Cold Harbor) but both thought each other over-rated and I think both were right.
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		| Psarevo 
 
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				| Pickett's Charge was the worst thing ever, and Lee was amazingly overconfident. 
 He should have listened to Longstreet!
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		| Big Fagot Alpha ape
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				| Can't we talk about Barbies or something? |  | 
	
		| Yogurtman Odin
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				| Well, Grant had to bring Sherman and Sheridan up because he had to replace a bunch of dipshits.  Lee took command with Jackson and Longstreet already in place, it's not his fault he didn't get to promote them. 
 And Lee's early defeats in West Virginia were probably not a campaign anyone could have won.
 
 I agree with your overall point, though.
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		| 8 bit orgy There's no fucking way Obama will win FL and NV. There's like to democrats to speak of anywhere here. Even the younger adults are voting for McCain. Honestly, I never even met a democrat in Florida, period.
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				| He entrenched his flanks, thus providing a powerful counterattack. |  | 
	
		| Clotho Clotho's rational faculties are not estimated to be at optimal capacity for a sapient specimen
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		| Action Hank Yes, I fart dicks. Dicks actually come out of my anus when I fart.
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				| Clotho, that wasn't a civil war! |  | 
	
		| YES Ask me about nation, culture, religion, gender, sexuality, and identity in general being anachronisms from a more vulgar and primitive past.
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				| ACe, he was just parodying himself, relax |  | 
	
		| johnbuisthegreat www.soldierofcock.com
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				| ACHILLES! |  | 
	
		| YES Ask me about nation, culture, religion, gender, sexuality, and identity in general being anachronisms from a more vulgar and primitive past.
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				| I know its a little late but please shut the fuck up 8-bit |  | 
	
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