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		| Jason At ten I shaved my head and tried to be a monk, I thought the older women would like me if I did.
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				|  Mafia III afterthoughts |  |  
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				| The thing I'd like to say most is that I thought this Mafia was a dream team in terms of avoiding suspicion, but their choices on kills and, in later Nights, inactivity, was some of the worst and most retarded ever. They needed one strong mind, which Morgan ALMOST was, in their midst, badly; but most of all they needed better communication. 
 The lesson to take is obviously: please don't sign up if you can't be available.
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		| Yogurtman Odin
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				| Yeah, they probably should have won. |  | 
	
		| Derek Payne huhhhh *puke* huhhhhhuh come on mike save the game *puke*
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				| They just weren't prepared to deal with my brilliant strategy. |  | 
	
		| Jason At ten I shaved my head and tried to be a monk, I thought the older women would like me if I did.
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				| Here are the notes from this game: 
 MAFIA III: Retribution
 
 Mafia (4):
 Spamdini
 Morgan
 Bounty
 Jay
 
 Godfather:
 Bounty
 
 Psychic:
 Derek
 
 Psaros:
 Clotho
 
 City Protector:
 Vito
 
 Blackmailer:
 Andre
 
 Gambler:
 Rice
 
 Heir:
 Seika (10)
 Peter (19)
 
 Vigilante:
 Mike, II
 
 Reshuffle.
 
 Lovers:
 MADali
 Theldorrin
 
 Evil Soul:
 Ace
 
 Dead:
 1. Vinny
 2. Clotho
 3. Meems
 4. Theldorrin
 5. Ace
 6. MADali
 7. Buis
 8. Vito
 9. Psaturn
 10. Spamdini
 11. Andre
 12. Stefan
 13. Bounty
 14. Peter
 15. Servbot
 16. Jay
 17. Morgan
 18. Seika
 
 Night One:
 Vito protects Theldorrin
 Derek scans Vito
 Clotho scans Jay
 Bounty converts Andre: Fail
 Andre blackmails Spamdini: Soulliano
 Clotho: Bounty, Spamdini, Jay, Morgan
 
 Night Two:
 Vito protects MADali
 Derek scans Theldorrin
 Bounty converts Vito: Fail
 Theldorrin: Spamdini, Bounty, Jay, Morgan
 
 Night Three:
 Vito protects Mike
 Mike shoots Vito
 Derek scans Yogurtman
 Bounty converts Derek: Fail
 Psaturn: Jay, Bounty, Spamdini, Morgan
 
 Night Four:
 Bounty converts Mike: Fail
 Derek scans Rice
 Mike shoots Andre
 Rice gambles on Andre
 Magic Juan: Morgan, Jay, Seika
 
 Night Five:
 Derek scans Mike
 Mike shoots Bounty
 Derek: Morgan, Seika
 
 Night Six:
 Derek scans Mautty
 Servbot: Morgan, Seika
 
 
 
 As you can see, it was the luckiest break possible that Seika's inheritance number happened to be Spamdini's death number. No conversion was made throughout the game, but the possibility that there could be is why I made the starting Mafia such a small group, which probably worked to their advantage.
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		| Rice Joined: 20 Jan 2007
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				| The game went from soul crushingly dull to the Daniel J. D'Arby fight very quickly! |  | 
	
		| FancyMichael A lonely fellow who couldn't bag a CHICKEN!
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				| Give me a bit.  I'll explain all of my decisions in a bit. |  | 
	
		| Theldorrin Joined: 04 Jan 2007
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				| They only seemed to be doing well because people assumed there were a lot more of them left than there were. 
 So I'm guessing that Seika didn't realize he had been converted to mafia, and that's why they didn't get their majority.
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		| Theldorrin Joined: 04 Jan 2007
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				| Wait, no that's not right. |  | 
	
		| Jason At ten I shaved my head and tried to be a monk, I thought the older women would like me if I did.
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				| Maybe you should read the notes! 
 He started voting immediately and was the only reason they were able to kill on Night Six.
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		| Yogurtman Odin
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				| So on night five they needed either Bounty or Jay to vote? |  | 
	
		| Jason At ten I shaved my head and tried to be a monk, I thought the older women would like me if I did.
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				| Yes. 
 Interesting to note that, without realizing it, Bounty tried to convert four people with roles that would have helped them the most! It was crazy!
 
 When he tried for Andre on Night One, I thought he might be cheating, so I asked him why and he said "To fuck with Morgan."
 
 That's when I realized that this Mafia team was retarded.
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		| My Head Hurts 90 Joined: 19 Jan 2007
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				| The only reason I was suspicious of Derek was because he had named me and Seika (who had basically been a townsperson like 9/10 of the game) as two of the remaining mafia. 
 But hey, it worked out in the end.
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		| Theldorrin Joined: 04 Jan 2007
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				| Your reasoning to kill Derek first was correct. If he was lying than he could have tricked the townspeople into killing you, Seika and Yogurtman, which would probably have resulted in a mafia win. |  | 
	
		| My Head Hurts 90 Joined: 19 Jan 2007
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				| EXACTLY. I know it's easy to believe him when you're one of the guys who gets named townsperson, but that shit looked ridiculously shady especially considering that he retardedly lived after outing rice. |  | 
	
		| Derek Payne huhhhh *puke* huhhhhhuh come on mike save the game *puke*
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				| Not really, I had dropped enough hints throughout the game that would've backed up my claim as the psychic later on. 
 Making wild accusations against inactive players helped keep the mafia from killing me earlier.
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		| Jason At ten I shaved my head and tried to be a monk, I thought the older women would like me if I did.
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				| So how soon does everyone want to start a vanilla, no roles, townspeople vs. Mafia game? 
 Activity will be enforced, so I'd like a significantly smaller number of players this time.
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		| Theldorrin Joined: 04 Jan 2007
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				| If he was telling the truth then signs would have pointed to all three of you being mafia. And that's especially odd considering he didn't scan any actual mafia members (a quick way of confirming whether he is telling the truth). |  | 
	
		| Vinny [00:10]  How can you get an erect dick into your own ass?
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				| No roles?! 
 Why can't you just use LESS CRAZY ROLES like just Psychic, just City Protector, and just Vigilante (with a max of 3 bullets, no gaining).
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		| Vinny [00:10]  How can you get an erect dick into your own ass?
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				| Of course, I'm really fucking sick and tired of being a townsperson over and over and over. |  | 
	
		| My Head Hurts 90 Joined: 19 Jan 2007
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				| I think I just placed too much emphasis on the mafia allowing him to live, but you can't blame me for that. |  | 
	
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