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Potatoes
Joined: 06 Jan 2007
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(Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:38 am)
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I'm still going to download Tha Carter III to see what the hub-bub is about.
Mike Dunn
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(Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:49 pm)
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Don't get me wrong, Punkasss, Lil' Wayne is one of my favorite rappers. Da Drought 3 is hands down the best mixtape I've ever heard. That said, Carter III is lyrically the worst of the Carter trilogy (although production-wise it's probably the best because it doesn't have Mannie Fresh all over it). Great job defending the album, though, considering you haven't even heard most of it yet. You even posted lyrics from the old version of "A Milli" which aren't even on the album (twice!). Here's the new lyrics:

"Man I hate a shy bitch. Don't you hate a shy bitch? Yeah I ate a shy bitch. She ain't shy no more she changed her name to my bitch. Yeah nigga that's my bitch, so when she asks for the money when you're through don't be surprised, beetch. And it ain't tricking if you got it. But you're like a bitch with no ass, you ain't got shit."

But whatever. I don't even know how I should construct my argument because I'm gonna be talking about songs you haven't even heard, but I guess I'll just lay it all out there:

First off, Lil' Wayne fucked himself over when he built up insane hype for C3 by releasing a fuckload of mixtapes. The Leak, the Drought series, so much stellar material that just owns his actual album. The songs are filled with lines Wayne's already spit on other songs, and a lot of his new lines are more corny than I've come to expect from him ("I'm rare like Mr. Clean with hair").

The hooks on this album are his worst yet, from the white guy yelling "Phone home! Weezy!" on "Phone Home" to Bobby Valentino making a dumb siren noise with his mouth on "Mrs. Officer", the hooks are just embarrassing. Come to think of it, Weezy's hooks have always been shit. That's why his best stuff is mixtape freestyles. And that's also one reason why Jay-Z is better than him. Listen to a Jigga song like "Allure" and compare it's hook to any Weezy song. The dude just says more.

And that brings me to my next point, which is that the lyrical content on C3 significantly lacks substance when compared with his earlier work. On his older shit his raps had at least scattered narratives, and there was some semblance of a message to some of his stuff. There's no doubt that "I Miss My Dawgs" was about Turk and BG and all them leaving Cash Money. "Receipt" was a great love song. Etc. But look at these lyrics and try and tell me if Lil' Wayne is saying anything at all:

"Get you 3-4 get you, like the number after 1 I'ma get me 2. It's Weezy F you now you gonna have a baby. My money don't fold nor bends, Mercedes maybach, grey black, and I got a 4-4 and a K like 8-stacks. Fuck your city, your town. I state facts. Take that. No, better yet like Diddy take that. Wait rats, I hate rats, I clean them out like Ajax. Got paper like a fax machine, asa-neen. Damn, I mean asinine (maybe assanon?). Dapper Don, after thine there will be non. Damn, I mean there will be none. I will be one, of the greatest things you ever felt you ever seen or heard Carter-D Harvard y'all scared."
-Nothin' on Me

That's more than half his verse and all it really equates to is "I've got a lot of money and guns". Sure that's all a lot of hip-hop equates to, but it's usually put together more cleverly than this. In fact, Fabolous and Juelz Santana outrhyme Weezy on this very song.

The only exceptions are "Tie My Hands" which is about Katrina and "Dr. Carter" which has Wayne playing doctor and diagnosing rappers' maladies with their flows rhymes and swag. They're both good songs. But it just makes me wish Lil' Wayne would address real issues more often instead of saying shit like "I am an alien like Gonzales".

In addition, the album is full of auto-tuned vocal garbage, which I guess we can expect more of in the near future when Wayne and T-Pain's "supergroup" drops their album.

"A Milli" is sick, "Let the Beat Build", "3 Peat", "Dr. Carter" and "Tie My Hands" are pretty good, and "Mr. Carter" is the best song on the album. Can you guess who the featured MC on the song is?

Everything else on the album, lyrically, is shit.

Basically it's pretty evident when you listen to Tha Carter III that Lil' Wayne has destroyed his brain with codeine cough syrup and that he will never top Jay-Z. It's a shame because I really thought C3 was gonna be some revolutionary hip-hop shit that would evolve the game like Illmatic, The Chronic or Ready To Die, but it turned out to just be a mediocre album with no lasting effect on the game whatsoever.

Get back at me when you listen to the album.
Ryoko's Biatch
Joined: 04 Jan 2007
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(Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:57 pm)
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Man, you guys are fucking homos.
Mike Dunn
Joined: 24 Jan 2007
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(Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:00 pm)
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Also, TL is right. Lil' Wayne is totally gay. Here's two example lyrics:

"All in the strip club never get a boner. Only get hard for 'd'oh!', I'm Homer."

"Started with my girlfriend, ended with her homies."
Magic Juan
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(Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:25 pm)
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I heard somewhere that Lil' Wayne is a fruitcake and that he's shacking up with his limo driver.
Mike Dunn
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(Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:35 pm)
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I heard Baby used to molest him when he was a child.
Yogurtman
Odin
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(Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:09 pm)
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I've never listened to this album and I never will but I'm pretty amazed regardless.
Big Fagot
Alpha ape
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(Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:12 pm)
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PunkAsss just pads his posts with huge breaks because he thinks he's e. e. cum eater.
GimpMask
My daddy ate my eyes.
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(Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:13 pm)
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don't care won't care ain't sportin no underwear
peeny swingin freely as i glide thru my jungle lair
higher than a cosmonaut in mir tokin fat doobs
i seen ice-t's wife yesterday she gots big boobs
down at the waterin hole buncha elephants an jakals
do my fishin with a spear can't afford no tackles

don't care won't care ain't sportin no underwear
peeny swingin freely as i glide thru my jungle lair
higher than a cosmonaut in mir tokin fat doobs
i seen ice-t's wife yesterday she gots big boobs
down at the waterin hole buncha elephants an jakals
do my fishin with a spear can't afford no tackles

don't care won't care ain't sportin no underwear
peeny swingin freely as i glide thru my jungle lair
higher than a cosmonaut in mir tokin fat doobs
i seen ice-t's wife yesterday she gots big boobs
down at the waterin hole buncha elephants an jakals
do my fishin with a spear can't afford no tackles
GimpMask
My daddy ate my eyes.
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Posts: 15034
(Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:14 pm)
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don't care won't care ain't sportin no underwear
peeny swingin freely as i glide thru my jungle lair
higher than a cosmonaut in mir tokin fat doobs
GimpMask
My daddy ate my eyes.
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Posts: 15034
(Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:28 pm)
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It is impossible to fry your brain on codeine cough syrup
MADali
Basically, someone like me is the friend who is watching from afar and shaking one's head.
Joined: 21 Jan 2007
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(Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:10 pm)
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"don't care won't care ain't sportin no underwear" makes up for every gay post in this thread
Bladtman
Joined: 14 Feb 2007
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(Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:11 am)
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crackas should be banned from speaking on rap
Magic Juan
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(Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:04 pm)
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What do you have to say about anything?
L Ron Butterfly
I take pop music pretty seriously.
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 3537
(Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:21 pm)
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Lil Wayne isn't about lyrical themes. He's about puns and charismatic delivery. You have to admit, even the lyrics that you posted, while he's not saying anything, as far pure creativity with language goes, it's clever and constructed, but relaxed. Almost drunk. It's innovative.

His delivery is different from anybody else. You'll never hear about a rapper copying JayZ's deivery because there's nothing special about it.

And you can't say he doesn't have good hooks. Have you ever heard early Cashmoney stuff???

THA BLOCK IS HOT???

Nigga you got that llello? (Well cook something nigga)
Nigga you let them K's go? (Well bust somethin nigga)
Are you duckin that law? (You better run from em nigga)
Are you playin with that raw? (Well won't you front somethin nigga)

WHAT?

NIGGA I SAY "HUH", NIGGA "WHAT", NIGGA WHAT YOU WANN DO
HAVE ME IN ALL BLACK BUSTIN BACK AT YA CREW.


Man, that shit was super fun.
GimpMask
My daddy ate my eyes.
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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(Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:15 pm)
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niggers running wild
Ryoko's Biatch
Joined: 04 Jan 2007
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(Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:08 pm)
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Lil Wayne sucks a million dicks. He drops a mediocre freestyle, puts it on an album and people eat that shit up, it's fucking stupid as hell. Chamillionaire freestyled over the A Millie beat and destroyed everything Lil Wayne has ever done in one verse.

Fuck that bitch ass nigga.
Mike Dunn
Joined: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 3549
(Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:59 am)
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Chamillionaire is decent but he loses points with me because his hooks are always way too long and frequent and he sings them all.
MADali
Basically, someone like me is the friend who is watching from afar and shaking one's head.
Joined: 21 Jan 2007
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(Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:00 am)
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Its cute when TL tries to act more black.
Ryoko's Biatch
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(Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:10 am)
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It's cute when you pretend not to be a savage.
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