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Ryoko's Biatch Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 9255 (Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:08 pm) Reply
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Vito, the forest would be the victim in that scenario. |
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Fagzilla Got lost in another dimension for a couple months. But seriously, we will actually update the site within the next couple of days. http://www.bandzwiki.com/ Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 10111 (Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:35 pm) Reply
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I enthusiastically consent... to reading all of the upcoming posts in this thread! |
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BigJoeMex Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 852 (Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:00 pm) Reply
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We should have a boxing ring where we can beat the shit out of each other over dumb disagreements. We can call it The Ring of Philosophy! |
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Fagzilla Got lost in another dimension for a couple months. But seriously, we will actually update the site within the next couple of days. http://www.bandzwiki.com/ Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 10111 (Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:07 pm) Reply
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*accidentally rapes you* |
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BigJoeMex Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 852 (Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:21 pm) Reply
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I guess I wasn't empowered enough... |
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MADali Basically, someone like me is the friend who is watching from afar and shaking one's head. Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 6740 (Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:26 pm) Reply
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How come non-white people in the west always embarrass themselves by being so proudly non-intellectual? |
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Seru Custom titles are for heroes, like me. Joined: 08 Jan 2007 Posts: 11012 (Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:31 pm) Reply
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Please stay on topic. |
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BigJoeMex Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 852 (Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:37 pm) Reply
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Wait. So you're telling me non-whites in the east are the exact opposite? I really don't see it! |
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MADali Basically, someone like me is the friend who is watching from afar and shaking one's head. Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 6740 (Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:45 pm) Reply
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It is the opposite in the east. The whites in the east are stupid. Take Dubai. For example, the shittiest white people came from UK. Lower-class, uneducated morons who were a failure in their own country, would suddenly be taken half-seriously in an Arab country. So the only thing they were good for were watching rugby games, drinking at pubs, and shouting at Indians. |
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Utils Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 923 (Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:35 am) Reply
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MADali you're wrong. It's not the non-whites who are proud of being non-intellectual it's POOR PEOPLE in general. If you were ever exposed to hicks or Floridians you'd understand. |
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Jason At ten I shaved my head and tried to be a monk, I thought the older women would like me if I did. Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7600 (Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:19 am) Reply
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duh im chris _________________ Last edited by God on Fri Apr 05, 33 4:00 am; edited 1 time in total |
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MADali Basically, someone like me is the friend who is watching from afar and shaking one's head. Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 6740 (Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:27 am) Reply
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Chris is worse than feminism. |
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Jason At ten I shaved my head and tried to be a monk, I thought the older women would like me if I did. Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7600 (Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:58 pm) Reply
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Yes, that is factually true. _________________ Last edited by God on Fri Apr 05, 33 4:00 am; edited 1 time in total |
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kakarot52 Joined: 30 Mar 2012 Posts: 941 (Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:46 pm) Reply
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I'm kinda surprised. I always thought it was the nerds who couldnt make it at home but are smart enough to pass themselves off as such abroad. Then again jocks DO actually show up for work so that's it.
I think you're wrong about asians in the west; Indians (and to a slight degree asians) are at least as nerdy as they are back home. I mean they're exchange students and expats after all.
Whatever, bullshit topic but I've already written this tripe so I'll post it. _________________ To continue is power -Shitbeast |
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Fagzilla Got lost in another dimension for a couple months. But seriously, we will actually update the site within the next couple of days. http://www.bandzwiki.com/ Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 10111 (Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:02 pm) Reply
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Jason At ten I shaved my head and tried to be a monk, I thought the older women would like me if I did. Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7600 (Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:10 pm) Reply
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Grow up. _________________ Last edited by God on Fri Apr 05, 33 4:00 am; edited 1 time in total |
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ALDP Joined: 25 Jul 2009 Posts: 4412 (Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:30 pm) Reply
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Quote: | There are many, many messages about rape. Your claiming it being "inadequate" or "miss the point" is more difficult to address because how can we quantify it? I can say that it is mentioned in various forms of modes of transmitting messages to a society, but you can say that it is not enough. |
You haven't given a single example despite their apparent ubiquity. Your entire argument hinges on the mere presence of rape in media being an explicit message against rape. I'm sorry that the inadequacy or irrelevance of messages disqualifies them but that's the entire point.
Quote: | Your comparison is incorrect, because a murder mystery, more often than that, does tell people that murders are bad. In most murder mysteries, there is someone grieving from the death of a victim, or some negative consequences, or legal precurssions. I've not seen a murder mystery where the detective has to find the murderer, so that he will be given a medal. |
Detective fiction is one of the most notoriously amoral genres in existence. Mysteries don't exist to give a moral, they exist for the excitement of solving a question. The negative consequences of a murder are a contrivance to beg the question of who committed it and why. But yeah Law & Order SVU is more than just a mystery, its moral is "Bad guys are bad." The point of it is to give people the satisfaction of seeing pedophile rapist boogeymen get locked up. The victims are props.
Family Guy makes rape jokes constantly. Do you actually believe that rape is not regularly played for laughs?
Quote: | Those messages have been given many times and are being given and will be given. Messages are not this OR that. They can both co-exist at the same time to be more effective. |
The one you posted is victim-blaming garbage and the hypothetical poster telling drunk men not to commit rape is not. As long as we're talking about useless posters, only one of the types should exist.
Rape means having sex with somebody without their consent. It can happen violently or it can happen other ways. Neither of the examples you gave is acceptable when consent hasn't been given. The 19-year-old is still a rapist and his ignorance of the fact has no bearing on that.
Quote: | Also, a lot of these messages become ineffective in people justifying their own actions, because the results they see when they do things. If a young boy doesn't take the "no" seriously, and as rewarded by sex with the girl, and the relationship continues fine the next day, then how does this affect his viewpoint on his action? |
Congratulations on literally blaming a victim. Maybe if society actually talked about rape, young men wouldn't put their girlfriends in the uncomfortable position of having to call them rapists. You're talking a lot about rationalizations, do you think rape victims have some too? About, you know, not picking up the burden of teaching the world about rape?
You're an imbecile. |
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ALDP Joined: 25 Jul 2009 Posts: 4412 (Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:34 pm) Reply
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Vito, analogies are not your strong suit. Also, you're human garbage. |
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Jason At ten I shaved my head and tried to be a monk, I thought the older women would like me if I did. Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7600 (Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:36 pm) Reply
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I had to scroll up to remind myself what analogy Vito made and I hope that he understands that I wasn't just being generally hostile to him like I would be with Clotho or something but that I was saying he literally deserved to die in a gruesome nightmare fashion for making that post. _________________ Last edited by God on Fri Apr 05, 33 4:00 am; edited 1 time in total |
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GimpMask My daddy ate my eyes. Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 15034 (Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:51 pm) Reply
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I feel like I'm in a time warp
Look, I'm probably not a very nice guy, but rape is a black and white issue. Boys, keep your hands to yourself. Savage drunken beasts, leave us alone. I sound childish, but really, I know I'm viewed as trash, so if the issue is simple to a guy like me .... |
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